Hollywood requirements !!!

[SpawnPPC]

Hi everyone!
I was reading the requirements for Hollywood but there is one thing that is not clear to me.
To run Hollywood you need at least a 68020, RTG software or the Plananarama plugin installed, and something else, but it is not clear to me if these requirements, excluding Plananarama obviously, are also necessary after compiling a code. For example, Hollywood says that it is compatible with 68K, but does not specify if it is compatible starting from the 68000 or the 68020. It also does not say if, by installing Plananarama, the RTG software is no longer necessary. Another question, does the Workbench work from 3.0 onwards? Or do you necessarily need to have a 3.1 with a 3.1 ROM? For my project I need these details because I need to understand from which Amiga and with which characteristics I can run my application which obviously must try to work on the largest possible number of Amigas. Can anyone give me more information or where I can find this information?

Thanks!

SpawnPPC

[plouf]

hi

in requirements clearly states 68020 /3.0 is ALL cases
RTG is needed and only plannanarama can remove its need correct

you can compile without rtg... its a a cli app anyway

[jPV]

Yeah, the requirements listed in the documentation are for running Hollywood scripts/applets/executables. Compiling itself might not need them all.

Another option to bypass the RTG requirement is to use MUI Royale or RapaGUI plugins. Hollywood display(s) can be embedded in a GUI, and MUI remaps the graphics to any kind of display on Amiga then, be it AGA or RTG etc..

[SpawnPPC]

Hello and thanks for the answers.

So it is confirmed that to use Hollywood and to compile the various scripts there must be a 68020 and plananarama installed and used at least, otherwise there is no way to make them work. I understand. While for the supported OS we start from AmigaOS 3.0 and up. Perfect. What has been said is enough for me to make important decisions.

Thanks to everyone!!!

[Juan Carlos]

You don't forget there are two 68k targets, the normal for 680EC20 and the FPU these is the best 68k target for WinUAE for example, the programs and games run more fast than single 68k version.

[SpawnPPC]

Latest question...

Is confirmed that there is no support for OCS and ECS chipset for graphics ? Is this true ? Only AGA and RTG, right ?

Thanx !

SpawnPPC

[jPV]

plananarama installed and used at least, otherwise there is no way to make them work.

No, there is another way to make it work. Plananarama isn't required if you use MUI Royale or RapaGUI, maybe I wasn't clear about that in my previous comment.

So, if you want to use a proper GUI tookit for windows in your program with those plugins, Plananarama isn't needed. But if you want to use custom Hollywood windows/screens, then Plananarama is required.

Is confirmed that there is no support for OCS and ECS chipset for graphics ? Is this true ? Only AGA and RTG, right ?

The Plananarama documentation tells:
"The Plananarama plugin allows Hollywood to run on planar (palette-based) screens. This finally makes it possible to run Hollywood scripts on plain AGA or ECS systems with no graphics board installed"

So, at least ECS should work. I haven't tried with OCS that is it really limited to ECS/AGA only...

[plouf]

OCS was anaounced and i have try it(under emulation) and works
however i believe you have manually minimize to OCS limits i.e screen/pallete/resolution/sprites

but if you target 68k/ocs by definition you will go lowest possible i guess

[SpawnPPC]

Hi and thanks to all guys.

So to recap, I through Hollywood, together with Plananarama or MUI or Rapa, can use all Chipsets (OCS experimentally apparently). So the problem would only remain in the CPU which at least must be a 68020.
Strictly speaking, if I have an accelerator card on any Amiga with WB 3.0 and ROM 3.0 that gives me at least a 68020 CPU, I can reach practically all users and Amigas. Great.

I don't think I'll use MUI or Rapa. My App is all made from scratch including the graphics, all proprietary. So I'm forced to use Plananarama. Now I'll write to the programmer so I can get more details.

Thanks to everyone as always.

SpawnPPC

[jPV]

Strictly speaking, if I have an accelerator card on any Amiga with WB 3.0 and ROM 3.0 that gives me at least a 68020 CPU, I can reach practically all users and Amigas. Great.

And of course some memory is needed. Hollywood executables are 2MB+ and resources need memory too, so a bog-standard A1200 won't be enough even when it has 020... it'll require some megabytes of fast memory too. And speedwise a faster CPU would be nice too.. it'll take some time to launch a Hollywood program on 020 in the first place etc.